Bach strad serial numbers trumpet

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This Trumpet features the original factory 1st. Fully Functional. It has the 43 Bell famous for their fullness. Sound and projection achieved by the one piece construction allowing for unrestricted vibration of the Bell.

Dings or scratches. All slides free with ease. Buyer pays Import Duty and or Tax. Description: Up for auction today we have a name that you will recognize with some features that make this horn very unique. This Bach Stradivarius Model 43 is an awesome horn to begin with before you even mention the fact that it is a.

The Bach Loyalst has this to say about the 43 Bell. The 43 is Brighter. Broader, and more open than the 37 Bell. He initially received training on violin, then switched when he heard its majestic sound. Although Vincent also displayed a strong aptitude for science and graduated with an engineering Performing under the stage name, Vincent Bach, he established a musical success as he toured throughout Europe. A letter to the famous conductor Karl Muck got Vincent an audition and a resulting position with the Boston Symphony.

By the following season. He was first trumpet in the Metropolitan Opera House. Vincent had great difficulty in finding a suitable replacement. While on furloughs he spent time in the basement of the Selmer Music store remodeling old mouthpieces. In The business grew rapidly and in , the first Bach trumpets were produced. Bach trombones followed in At the age of Vincent sold his company.

Although he received twelve other o. Bach Stradivarius silver model 43 trumpet. The 43 has a slightly larger bore than the 37 and lets you push more air and is a more open than the standard model It helped me to get a fuller sound and move more air to support higher registers.

This trumpet carried me through high school and college in concert. Marching, and jazz bands. I just haven't used it enough since I graduated and want to pass it on to someone who will play it. The trumpet was just professionally cleaned. All valves and slides move well and are in good working order. There is a small dent in the first valve slide and the finish is wearing on the first valve casing where I put my thumb when playing.

There are a few other very minor scratches and dings but nothing that will affect the sound. Overall, the trumpet is in excellent condition. I am including a 3C and Some of the leather on the case has torn from use, but structurally the case is solid. I'll also include some cleaning supplies, valve oil, and slide grease. Feel free to contact me by email, phone, or text if you want to see it or have any questions. NO mouthpieces.

The trumpet is well used and does show signs of wear in the form of nicks. Scratches and dents, The most severe one shown in the pictures in a red square. Here is a great Bach Model 43 trumpet. It was just serviced by our local Music store and they always do great work. Valves and tuning slides are in perfect working order. The trumpet is in great working condition but is not without flaws. Bell has a small crease that is barely noticeable and the lead pipe is a little dented as seen in pics.

This is a great trumpet. It has no playing issues and comes with a Vincent Bach mouthpiece. Bach Stradivarius Model 43 - Reversed leadpipe, 43H bell. Some very minor dings but no major dents. Valves are fast and slides are smooth. This auction includes a cloth gig-bag and Vincent Bach Corp. We all know what this is. One of the best trumpets made. It's from the 's. It's in good condition. Everything works. It's the best playing trumpet I've ever owned.

I am a retired public school music teacher and soon to be retired private clarinet studio teacher to quit that as well. This is a horn that I think I took as a trade in for lessons. I'm not really sure however. I don't really play brass since the Buccaneers and the Westshoreman.

My dentist says to not play brass but woodwinds are OK. This horn is in very good condition. The bell has a slight wrinkle. One small dent in the bell curve and there is some finish pits on the bell section. Hopefully photos will show these. The case is ok except for the handle. It's totally done. It fell apart. The case does have the orginal wrapping for the horn. Do not buy this for marching band. It's too good for that. But is very nice carrying case as shown.

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This trumpet has several dents and dings-please review all photos as I've tried to capture them all. Please zoom into pictures for a detailed look. It has a piece of wire in its place. The small U tube has a dent. Payment is due within 24 hours of auction end. I report non-paying bidders. I will ship within 5 business days of payment received. I'll ship FedEx and will provide a tracking with signature required. No exceptions. Bach Stradivarius model 43 trumpet with Monette leadpipe. Please see photos, this is in very nice condition.

All slides move freely. This has a large bore and is a great horn for a lead trumpet. This will come with a Bach 7C mouthpiece. This will come with an amazing protective case. Please feel free to ask any questions.

Thanks, Mike. On Sep at PDT. Seller added the following information: Vincent Bach Stradivarius Model 43 Silver plated Description: The popular design of the Stradivarius Series is combined with the 43 taper bell that has a slower taper to produce a brighter sound that is more brilliant and open than the standard 37 taper.

The S43 also features a 25 standard leadpipe that offers some resistance that is effective in centering tone production. These two features combine to produce a trumpet that is well suited for jazz. See pics for details Pictures are of the actual item you are bidding on! And as such, I always leave feedback promptly for every completed sale. If you are not satisfied with any part of a transaction, PLEASE allow me the opportunity to remedy the situation prior to opening a case on eBay.

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I used this trumpet in high school marching. Jazz and concert band. Also was used in college marching band and jazz band. The trumpet sounds just as good as it did the day i bought it. It comes in the original case as well. This trumpet has been sitting in the closet for several years. Im selling to help with a down payment on a car. Normal wear on the trumpet but over all still a beauty. Also 2 cup mutes.

In very good conditions, but with signs of use including scratches, dings and previous dent removed from bell flare, no creases in metal, all only noticeable upon close inspection. Valves work flawlessly. Excellent compression. Very nice looking horn. No case or mouthpiece. Shipping to continental US only.

Trumpet will be shipped via USPS, double boxed. Bach Stradivarius Model 43 series with Mutes, Stand and more. Parting ways with my Bach Stradivarius Model 43 series trumpet. Trumpet is in good condition and sounds beautiful. This is a professional trumpet and has been played for years all around the Pacific Northwest and was also played in Europe.

This trumpet was used to play Classical. Jazz, Pep and multiple musicals. First and Third valve pipes slide very easily to help keep your notes in tune. Trumpet 1 Hal Leonard Baron Company. You are looking at a beautiful. Vintage, silver plated model 43 in original case, that is in great condition for being 35 years old. The horn itself has few if any signs of wear, the plating is practically perfect, no dents and no dings I can see, the pictures should tell the rest of the story as far as condition goes.

The star on the bell says it is a light weight bell. The serial number puts it at a date of manufacture. A trumpet playing friend says it blows very open and responds well at all registers. This auction also includes the original Bach corp 7c mouthpiece as well as two metal Harmon mutes also in great shape. There is also a polishing cloth and a couple plastic mouthpieces in the case.

THis auction is as is. Bach Stradivarius Trumpet Model 43 Silver. Also included are 2 mouthpieces. It has not been used in quite a while and needs to be polished. It also has several dings. Buttons and slide move freely. Comes in Bach hardcase. This is a really nice silver trumpet.

I don't play so I have very limited knowledge of trumpets. I was able to date it to by the serial number. I do think it needs to be serviced as slides are tight and I don't want to force anything.

There is a small dent in the bell. I have a put on a picture of it, though the picture makes it look worse than it is, I want to make sure that it is disclosed. Other than that, it is really nice. It is comes with 2 silver mouth pieces, 1 cup mute, 1 wow wow mute, and a tom crown mute.

Also some music books and music sheets. It comes in it's original case. Please look at the pictures and ask any questions before bidding. No International buyers. Buyer to pay shipping and handling. Payment due within 3 days of close of auction. PayPal only. Happy Bidding! Item came to us at the pawn shop and we don't have personal use of it. We didn't test it but looks like all buttons are in working condition if is something wrong you can always return it to us.

Trumpet is in fair cosmetic condition see pictures about condition. Picture is actual item you will receive. Please see pictures for best item description. Comes with everything shown in pictures. As is- What you see in the pictures is what you will be receiving.

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If for any reason you are not completely satisfied with your purchase before leaving feedback Please contact us with any questions or concerns at ask for Chris In Internet dept. We appreciate you looking at our items. Good luck and Happy Bidding. Water Keys are in good condition. Pistons and Valves are in excellent condition with no sticking. Scraping, or air leaks. There are one or two very. Very tiny dents, one the bore and the other near the bell, it is very unlikely that you will even find these dents, unless I pointed them out.

Bach 1C Mouthpiece is included. Bb Olds Ambassador trumpet. This trumpet does not have the standard Olds lead pipe. Instead it has been fitted with a free blowing 43 lead pipe from my 80's Bach Strad. This lead pipe really opens up the Ambassador making it very easy to play above the staff with large volume, and will play easily in all registers for the student or professional. I really hate to part ways with such a great horn, You are looking at a very nice silver plated Vincent Bach Corporation Stradivarius trumpet with a 43 bell.

It was made in serial 99XXX The trumpet is in very good condition. Everything works as it should. And the horn sounds really good and is a true joy to play.

It plays, sounds, looks, and feels great. There are no dents on the horn. There is some light scratching that is too faint to show up in the pictures. There are a few scratches on the bell that I want to be sure you are aware of.

But you will see them when you hold the trumpet in your hands and look for them. They are not deep and do not go down to the brass. I just don't want you to have any unexpected surprises when you receive the horn. Also, I believe the 1st slide finger hook The silver plating is faint where the finger hook attaches to the slide.

See the pictures. This 41 year old Stradivarius does not look its age and it can still hang with the best of them.

It has a great sound and it really feels good to play it. The valve pistons are clean and in very good condition with minimal wear. They move up and down quickly. Quietly, and smoothly. All slides move smoothly. The three valve slides make a good pop when you pull them out. The finger buttons have mother of pearl inlays which are in very good condition with no cracks or chips. All bracing is strong and secure.

Spit keys function well. The trumpet has been cleaned out with warm soapy water. Soft brushes, and a cleaning snake, so there is no dirt or grime that can be removed with soapy water remaining in it. As with any used brass instrument, a chem clean or an ultrasonic cleaning at some point is recommended. This trumpet comes in its original leather covered hard wood case which is in very good condition.

The latches work well and there are no tears or scuffs on the case. The inside is also in good condition. Bach Stradivarius Brass Trumpet Model Great Shape. Grade these items based on the pictures. Everything in the pictures is what you will receive. Shipping is flat rate. We will ship your item within business days after purchase. There are no returns except if we send you the wrong item.

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We like giving positive feedback as we believe you do too. We will do our best to take care of you and fix any problems that may occur. Included: Trumpet. Case, and 3c mouthpiece. This is an excellent trumpet that has served me well over the last 6 years. I played it all throughout high school and during my first two years of college. It has traveled with me around the world to various competitions and events. I am not actively playing anymore and am looking to downgrade a bit.

I still love playing, but I can't justify keeping such an amazing instrument in my closet when someone else could get some real use out of it. It has a very full sound and projects very well. Because of this you can play it in almost any band. I used it in all of the marching. Concert, and jazz bands that I played in over the years. The trumpet is in pretty good condition with only a few mild dings around the bell.

I apologize for the poor quality of the pictures. But the only working If you have any questions feel free to ask. I played when I was younger and my church was begging for me to play. My old trumpet was not doing well as it had been in storage a LONG time so I bought this one with the intention of starting to play again.

There is no sense it sitting at my house any longer, both from a financial perspective as well as a musical one. It needs to belong to someone who will treasure it and make great music with it! Please see all the photos. There was some residue left on the horn from the paste that the factory uses. There is minor scratching on the horn, a silver cleaner like Maas will mostly likely remove fine scratches.

All valves. Buttons, etc. There is not a single ding that I am aware of on the instrument. This was also NOT a store displayed horn as many horns purchased are, I played the store display then had them open from sealed box a new one this one It has the original case, original sealed 7C Bach mouthpiece I use 3C, but the 7 came with it The paperwork that came with it as well as deluxe hard case and even will be shipped in the original box.

No sense in waiting for a long auction- this great horn can be yours right now! Will be fully insured and shipped out quickly in original box for FREE! Brand- Bach. Model- Stradivarious ML Key- B flat. Description of condition- Lightly used. Kept in working condition. All slides and valves are fully functional. Last service completed- August, and included ultra sonic flush and clean, felts, corks and springs replaced. Details: Beautiful professional trumpet. Minimal dings, tarnishing or corrosion.

All slides and valves are fully operable. Perfect for a serious high school or college student. Bold sound. Bach model SN- Includes like new bach trumpet case and used 5c bach mouthpiece. Buzz practice tool, and mutes cup, straight and plunger. All Sales Final! Only blemish is a small dent near the bell which is pictured Everything on this trumpet works as is should.

Sterling plus is actually pure silver-these incredible horns have an extremely dark tone quality and excellent response. They haven't been that popular because Bach has wanted an arm and a leg for them but here's a chance to get one at a reasonable price. Original lacquer shows some wear on the bell but looks nice. Valves see pic are excellent and this horn plays fantastic. The trumpet: Professional model; medium-large bore; silver antique plated.

With gold-plated valve caps; first and third valve triggers. Disinfected, and fully operational. Reason for selling; Musician has retired! Accessories: 2 performance. And 1 studio trumpet stands, straight mute; cup mute; Harmon mute, carry bag for stands and mutes,.

For sale used Bach Stradivarius Trumpet. Trumpet is in excellent condition. All slides and valves in working condition. Year is a In perfect timing for Xmas. Also Included: Monette mouthpiece B Vincent Bach mouthpiece 1C. Jo-Ral Mute. Polishing cloth. Velvet lined Trumpet case. NO International Shipping! None were made in and from through Each block contains a number in red that indicates how many C trumpets were made during that interval of time.

The arrows indicate years a specific configuration skipped. Medium bore trumpets with a bell and mouthpipe were made in and but not in Finally, the green numbers in ovals are the serial numbers of specific trumpets that were analyzed to write this article.

Those too will be discussed later, but they are shown on the chart to identify the approximate interval of time the trumpets were made as well as their respective configurations as they were made. It is difficult to get an accurate count of the number of bells Bach tried before World War Two. There were at least 18 specific designs for C trumpets, and Bach left evidence about the sound quality of most of them.

From the above chart, five are identified that made it into production. Once bell, , is a cornet bell and will be discussed later. Similarly, it appears that seven different C trumpet mouthpipes were tried, and three of them made it into production. Qualities such as shrill, nasal, French, Teutonic, etc.

Recalling Bach's catalog, he began production with only small and medium bore C trumpets. It did not take long for this to change as small bore C trumpets were phased out altogether and trumpets of increasing bore sizes were added. It might be tempting after examining the above chart to say that Bach abandoned both small and medium bore C trumpet prior to World War Two. That is not completely true.

He restarted production of medium bore C trumpets after the war. Note: Bach's earliest medium-large and large bore trumpet production intervals illustrate a technique he used throughout his production career. He tried out ideas before committing to extensive production. These were not 'experiments' is the classical sense of that word. These were actually small numbers of production trumpets that served to determine whether more of that particular configuration might be built or not.

This approach had the advantage of making sellable 'trials'. Bach also used this approach with other aspects of his designs such as bell brass choices. Of some interest is the fact that the two medium-bore trumpets were the first trumpets Bach made in this bore size.

He then adopted that bore size in his B b trumpet line. Some results can be taken from the above chart. The first observation is that his first C trumpets were made in small and medium bore sizes as described in his catalog.

A more important observation, however, is that the bore sizes of his C trumpets continually increased throughout the period represented by the chart. While the above chart makes the point about Bach increasing the bore sizes of his C trumpets before the war abundantly clear, it does not add anything to the discussion of the trumpets themselves. Data and examples to back them up are needed. To analyze Bach's C trumpets, his shop cards and technical drawings have to be researched.

The shop cards are three-by-five-inch index cards, one for each instrument. The information on those cards varies. Taken as a set, however, they produce insights on trends and timing. A major problem with using the shop cards for analyses is that the data on them might be changed if an instrument was modified at the factory.

Sometimes the old data can be seen, but many times it was obliterated or erased. Occasionally, an older instrument was modified to such an extent that a new shop was made. The front and back are shown below. If someone were interested in what this trumpet was like when it was made in and wanted to compare that to the rest of the data, he or she would be hard pressed to do it.

Of course for the owner of this trumpet, the history of alterations and people involved with it would be of some interest also. The first time it was tried by either Roger or Rene Voisin.

It may be one of the C trumpets in the hands of one of these two members of the BSO as shown in the photograph in the introduction and background section. A second set of data contains Bach's technical drawings that he turned over to the Selmer Company in For C trumpets, that means three drawings of importance.

One was completed in The other two were completed in and Only the first one is relevant before World War Two. Conn-Selmer, Inc. The drawing is a remarkable document. It is also very confusing. Dates are noted on the drawing when changes to the designs were made. While some changes were corrections, most indicated redesigns. The dates shown on the drawing are as follows: September 20, ; February 9, ; December 4, ; April 5, ; January 4, ; January 4, ; May , February 7, and September 2, They are not necessarily the dates his trumpets were changed.

If a person wants to determine the characteristics of a pre-World War Two Bach C trumpet, relevant data on the drawing has to be analyzed. Just glancing at the drawing demonstrates the degree of difficulty of doing that. Much of the above information was included in this article to make sure readers understand the following point. Guesses had to be made, but they were made within the context of the data.

These two configurations were the beginning. He made three in each bore size. These instruments were the result of Bach's original thinking about higher pitched instruments higher than B b having smaller bore sizes complimented by smaller components. At least some of these trumpets were made with even smaller upper tuning slide tubes 0. These instruments likely were fairly restrictive. Bach eventually made a note on a separate technical drawing of bell that says it was 'not good in tune' as if to remind himself why he gave up on this bell.

See Figure 8 below extracted from the bell drawing. This note is included to make the point that Bach may have tried a bell he thought was going to turn out to be good, but if it did not, he quickly moved on to different components to improve the situation.

Bell was patterned after one used on an English-made trumpet with medium bore size. It appeared that good luck was in hand when one of the original trumpets in configuration A was found. Its serial number is , and it was examined for this article. For now, this trumpet provides something of a visualization of what these older trumpets looked like, but it also demonstrates some of the problems in assuming that it is an original Bach design.

First of all, Bach changed the bell on this trumpet because of the intonation problem noted above, yet the shop card contains no indication of any such modification. That information can only be determined by looking at the trumpet. Comparing the original mouthpipe to the technical data, it appears that it was changed too. The newer bell on trumpet is a bell. Two of the other five trumpets made with the bell also were modified with a bell.

Those changes were noted on the respective shop cards. The shop cards also indicate that the other two became X Horns Reference 5. Those two may be found one day with surprisingly high serial numbers. Even with extensive modifications, trumpet it is a useful instrument to help understand Bach's earliest C trumpet efforts because enough of its original features remain. For instance, the thickness of the slide brass on instruments with this valve design varies with bore size, so trumpet could be used to confirm the dimensions of Bach slides on trumpets made with these valves.

Moreover, the valve ports are located such that the layout of trumpet is quite different from trumpets made with later valve designs types B and E. The following is a photograph of trumpet Readers right away will notice some oddities about this trumpet.

Not only did Bach modify trumpet , its current owner had it modified again within the last two years or so. Among other things, the latest modifications account for the strange arrangement on the third valve stop rod. Bach did not put stop rods on the top of the third valve slide. The exact date the first bell was made cannot be determined, but it is thought to have been made specifically to retrofit trumpets made with bells. Small and medium bore C trumpets with bells and a mouthpipes have to be considered to be Bach's first 'big sellers' in C trumpets.

A combined total of 23 of them were made. The mouthpipe was introduced to complement the bell. On the other hand, Bach also thought the sound characteristics of the mouthpipe to be French and nasal. He made just over 20 trumpets between and using these components. Even though production quantities were about evenly split between the two bore sizes, the technical drawing for the bell indicates it was intended primarily for medium bore trumpets.

Bach had begun using type B valves by the time these trumpets were made thus changing the layouts of these instrument compared to earlier instruments. On two small bore trumpets made in the configuration described in this section, Bach used a type C valve piston for the first valve and type B valves for the other two.

Type C valves were designed for extra large bore instruments. Neither of these trumpets was located, so exactly what drove this requirement is unknown. It is quite possible that the type B valves created a layout problem in the first valve slide for small bore trumpets. If that is correct, Bach eventually solved that problem simply by eliminating small bore C trumpets.

The Depression began to affect business in Bach made only two C trumpets that year. Both substituted a bell for the bell. These trumpets should not be considered mainstream trumpets because so few in this configuration were made. They are significant, however, because they were made in medium-large bore size 0. These two trumpets were, in fact, Bach's first use of that bore size , which means that medium-large bore sizes were adaptations into his B b line rather than from it.

These two trumpets were later modified with a newer bell. The Depression caught up with Bach and the trumpet-buying community at this point. No new C trumpets were made for the next three years except for the one large bore trumpet shown in Figure 4. Bach may well have begun routine production of medium-large bore C trumpets earlier had the Depression not intervened. He did begin making medium-large bore trumpets in his B b line. Then, as business began to recover around , Bach re-started C trumpet production with two bore sizes, medium and medium-large.

Although Bach made over 20 trumpets with the bell, it too eventually proved to have some unspecified intonation flaws. Notes about it indicate that it was corrected reshaped and was considered for further reshaping into mandril That idea was rejected when it was discovered that the mandril was bent.

It appears that the mandril eventually was discarded. The new mandril was used to make a comparatively large number of trumpets. Also coupled with the mouthpipe, an estimated 30 trumpets were made in this configuration. The bell was then used to replace the bell on many of the earlier trumpets. Readers might also be interested to know that Bach put the bell on about six B b trumpets as well as one B b rotary valve trumpet. These were more-or-less unfortunate applications. The bell was too small for B b trumpets.

During this period , other facets of Bach's designs were changed for both B b and C trumpets. By the time C trumpet production began again, Bach had switched from type B valves to type E. The changes in the locations of the valve ports were minor, however, and the layouts of instruments using these two valve designs are almost indistinguishable.

Bach also tried using some imported French brass in these instruments, and he experimented for the first time with chromium valve plating. Of those trumpets made in this configuration between and , the shop cards indicate that only one was modified.

None of these earlier instruments have been located. As a result, not much beyond what it shown on their shop cards is known. In stark contrast, of those trumpets made between and , all but one was modified. All of those trumpets had medium-large bores. The modifications included Bach's , and bells along with his mouthpipe and an early adaptation of his 7 mouthpipe from his B b trumpet line. At least some of these instruments had telescoping tuning slides, but the inside diameters of all three tubes in the tuning slide assembly were smaller than the bore size of the trumpet.

One trumpet had four separate bells installed on it. Bach labeled this trumpet 'My Own' on its shop card, meaning the trumpet was a trumpet Bach used for demonstration. Not surprisingly, this trumpet underwent the most modifications of any. The activity between and showed Bach trying to advance his C trumpet designs by retrofitting instruments. As with many of his early C trumpets, these modified instruments ended up in the hands of orchestral 'names', which means orchestral players were getting more interested in them.

In addition to changing components, bell diameters were varied, brass thickness was changed, etc. There is simply no way to categorize Bach's thought processes during this exercise.

Twelve of these trumpets were completed on the same day in March , but modifications to them continued well past that date. Three others were completed two or three years later. Of some importance was the first use of a 7 mouthpipe on a C trumpet. This mouthpipe was designed for B b trumpets. Specifically, it was designed to complement the change from the 6 B b bell to the 7 B b bell. The use of a version of this mouthpipe for C trumpets represented a change in thinking for Bach.

Adaptation of B b trumpet components to use on his C trumpets was just starting. While Bach was looking for the right C trumpet design, it is clear that he decided that his earlier C trumpets were too short, i. During this period, Bach changed his designs to longer model C trumpets. This was done at least in some cases through modifications. Dividing his C trumpets into original or modified long model designs was not possible without examining the individual trumpets.

The description begins to get even more complicated at this point. As mentioned earlier, to make a longer trumpet in appearance, Bach had to shorten the mouthpipe assembly.

This, in turn, meant that the tuning slide would move toward the mouthpiece receiver. The combined shortened distances could then be used to lengthen the bell. An analysis of the total changes to Bach's design shows that the bells on the long model trumpets were lengthened by about an inch and three-quarters compared to his short model C trumpets.

Trumpet shown on top in the photograph below is a short model C trumpet. One of the modified long model C trumpets originally made in was studied for this article. It is trumpet More will be said about it later, but the following photo serves to identify its apparent change in length.

Or more about that time? I was wanting some information on a cornet that I have. ML I have a Bach Stradivarius 37 with the serial number , I want to know, when this instrument was made? Vernon NY Stradivarius Cornet. It is a darker gold with very little silver around the tuning slides.

I played this instrument very heavily through the years of ish through it shows very little wear on the valves of none. Serial number on the second valve case is L and under that is Is there a way to find out the history of this instrument. Can anyone help me here. I have Bach Strad Mt.

Vernon model. Serial 15xxx. I had it silver plated Original case with 7C Mt. Vernon mouthpiece. Would like to know year made and approx. Muchas gracias. Yes, you can. You can use sites like this one. I own Bach Strads from , , , […]. Serial number Model In for strip down and polishing. What might the value be? Hi, I have a Mt. Lauderdale, Fl. Cool huh? It is has serial throughout the horn valves and on the middle outside valve Mt. Vernon, NY ML. Pearl tops on the valves.

Love the horn! Trying to get some more info. Everything works very well. No valve or slide issues. Lots of petina and no dings I can really see. Was re-laquered once about 25 years ago, but has completely worn off it seems. I also have the original case in decent shape inside is perfect, outside a little scruffed but nothing major along with another V. I was born in and this model from what I can tell was manufactured approx. Not sure… Thanks for whatever help you can give!

I believe it is a Mt V. Strad from before Serial :. I have always thought the ML stood for Medium Large, as in medium large bore. Is this correct? I can read your chart which seem to indicate my Bach Strad Mt Vernon?

Any more detailed info? Serial number: ML I have always thought the ML stood for Medium Large bore , yes? Wirft man einen Blick auf Seriennummerlisten der vergangenen Jahrzehnten, ergeben sich Produktionszahlen zwischen The serial number written down by the music store was b I dropped it off today for cleaning so my kid can play it.

I wish I had gotten more info before I dropped it off. Can you tell anything about it from that info? I have a trumpet whose only marking is TSO Came in a really nice case.

I think the instrument may be older. Thanks for helping. Serial number. Do you know, how old is this instrument? I recently purchased a Bach Stradivarius Model 43, serial number I am interested in knowing its provenance and date of manufacture. Any details you might provide would be appreciated.

The serial number on the middle valve is ML If anyone has any thoughts please let me know. Maybe its from ? I dont play, its a shame she lays around. Greets from Berlin. Can anyone tell me what they think a Strad model 37 silver plated ML in excellent condition serial XX might be worth. It is from I think. All original and in excellent undamaged condition. I just got my first silver. I was wondering when it was made the serial is Does anyone know when it was made?

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